Thank you for the answer. And that gets even more complex if you’re using your trainer as your power meter for the Polar device, since all but the Wahoo KICKR only allow for a single concurrent Bluetooth Smart connection (and the Vantage V2 doesn’t connect via ANT+). Not even the basic quality of life improvement of music controls? the group of people between the Unite/Ignite fitness enthusiasts and the Triathletes outdoor adventurers that are going to spend 4/500 on a Grit or V2? What I’d like (concerning all wrist gadgets) is buttons on up and down sides, not left and right. To do any route integration, you have to now use Komoot… but if you want a route not in your initial setup area, you have to pay MORE for Komoot to get other areas… with v800, you’d just upload whatever route you wanted, have a nice day, and get routes (and Strava Segments, GoPro controls, etc)… I have been with Polar sine 2008. A square shape with an high contrast display would be beneficial. Polar Vantage V2 allows you to really get under the skin of who you are. But what scares me away is the lack of maps in comparison to Garmin as I’m hiking and trailrunning a lot. Has anyone tried to transfer a Stryd trainings plan to polar flow and train accordingly with the Vantage V2? But the Apple tv (or Rouvy) still uses the BLE connection with the Tacx for the controlable. Polar vantage v2 - Página 111 - Foroatletismo.com. However, I suspect that there might still be a problem, as my Grit X shows double the actual power for the Kickr Core. I think Polar is missing the point omitting things like this. You’d still have to manually recreate them in polar flow and also manually update your power zones whenever Stryd updates your CP, second paragraph should be: “you can only select HEART RATE and pace zones.”. I suppose maybe so that you don’t start running/riding/etc again without starting, but there’s other ways to address that. Just the way I roll. Physiology doesn’t work that way. After completing the test, select the test result in FLOW and are prompted to update your performance markers accordingly. Great review as always! Plus, you'll be more awesome. One would have to really ask yourself which exact features out of the ‘new features’ list you’d use, and how frequently you’d use them. – monthly VO2 max test for running and for cycling They also do an approximation in the form of Running Index. Depending on the type of workout you choose it’ll give you the specific steps and guidance in the watch itself. No problem, here's the platform I use - you can too! There is a permanent 'ON' backlight setting for when you workout. My main problem with the V2 is an allergic reaction to the strap. I had high hopes for Vantage to be a v800 replacement (and Vm to be an M430 replacement)… I knew based on the path the past 2-3 years though, that V2 was going to be an “eh, so what” product, and yep, it’s exactly that. For me Polar nailed it. Phew, got all that? I did software development at Garmin for 12 years. Form factor sucks (look at the screenshots, almost every screen has data “cut off” at the top or bottom (in particular) that would fit just fine on a 1.3″ “square” screen, but is cropped due to the stupid round shape. Polar Flow app and compatible devices If you're using an older Polar product (Polar Loop 2, Loop Crystal, A300, M400, M460, V650 or V800),. This is why it’s ridiculous that Polar can’t support ANT+ in their Vantage V2. No, unfortunately not. Polar sometimes has bad names for good things…like the Orthostatic test. – Leg Recovery Test. Super review Ray. Just curios, which way to define heart rate zones is better, from max hr and then divide heart rate zones according to percentages or from lthr? they use hrmax rather than ant/aet or %ant/lthr/obla For athletes who are new to the Polar platform, there is too much old ground to cover when looking at the impressive list of existing Polar features that are carried into the Vantage V2. I am currently using a Kickr Core 2019 paired with an older Samsung Smartphone using the Wahoo App and a Fenix 5 paired seperatly to the trainer. – every day fitnesstest, based on HRV Therefore I’m thinking of ditching Garmin and go for an Apex Pro or the new Vantage V2. The maiden user will be impressed by those spec sheets, loyal Polar users look right through their marketing shenanigans. Just keep nagging them, specifically on their forums and reddit. 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At this point, Polar has essentially refreshed the bulk of their wearables lineup in the last 12 months - inclusive of launching the trail-focused Grit X last spring, which kinda slides in between the Vantage M2 and V2. But at the end of the day, you might just be wondering “What does Ray use when not testing new products?”. I say that was an awful management decision (not implementing ANT+). A dead watch is a useless watch. Thank you both! Anyone using Vantage V2 on daily basis with android phone, con/pros? I’m obviously aware that Garmin/Firstbeat has a massive budget here and that Polar has ALWAYS been heart-rate focussed, but I have this nagging doubt gnawing away at my sporting soul and telling me that Garmin/Firstbeat is not always sufficiently correct. Hey Ray – Have you thought about tracking altitude in your tests ? I probably could try and also do it with Suunto/COROS, but realistically Polar/Garmin are just so much further ahead by comparison. Now I have my doubts after reading the review and all the comments below. I saw that it’s in Flow, but I’d like to know if the watch records anything other than your heartrate during the row. I think $499 is a lot, relative to what you have today with the Vantage V, and what the competitors have at either substantially lower price points or the same price point. So, the FR245 came out April 2019, thus, I wouldn’t imagine anything prior to around then. Hi Ray, Thanks for your always so thorough reviews! (not OHR, which is, “not good” in so many words as expressed on review here and elsewhere)… still love that I can sit on an exercise bike or treadmill at any random gym, and look up often and see my HR on screen without having to touch anything because it just works and picks it up… Let's look at this premium sports watch, as it actually is, instead. If you experience problems with your Grit X/Vantage M/Vantage M2/Vantage V, you can try restarting it. It’s a pity to have trail marathons and ultras with the indication on the map (right top corner) “Low accuracy GPS used”. I am mostly interested in a watch that will basically be like a coach, that will help me not-overtrain, recommend me workouts and avoid me injuries and detraining, but also take into consideration the stressors of daily life and not just of my workouts. Durability: Operating temperature: from -20° to 50°C. as it’s a bit of an effort to keep track of food intake. Or can this only be done by a ‘faster’ CPU from the Vantage V2 and other hardware internals? Garmin 945LTE Feature Catchups – Plus, Where Are All The New Garmins? Simpel. Other strap colours can be bought separately at, Large/Medium strap or an extra US$/Eu9.90 for a small strap. in comparison to V800. On the outside, the hardware construction is very good and on the inside, there is the occasional quirky menu interface that I find endearing, although navigating through the menus to find what you want is quick and soon becomes second nature. Where I think Polar really has a compelling case is that $199-$279 price point where someone wants something sport-focused, but doesn’t really want to spend for a Garmin, and doesn’t really want an Apple Watch, and needs something more than a Fitbit. I have a problem. Having said that pool swimming is still hit and miss and the distance can be vastly off. Most sportswatches concentrate on running, cycling and swimming. Imagine you would like to do a planed training a day earlier or swop days. What in “https://www.reddit.com/r/Polarfitness/comments/evlsj8/does_the_vantage_v_have_a_compass_after_all/” When you row using a Concept2, there’s the option of connecting to the PM5 computer on that specific rower. So excited about new sport features, but so disappointed (again) about smart features that so far away of what Garmin does. Typically speaking, the different color LED’s handle different skin colors better. In Polar Flow web, in upper right corner name/avatar -> Settings. Now Polar switches the game, tweaks a few parts and ignores the older watches. It could be easily fixed but instead you get two additional watch faces. Polar uses HR and the triaccelerometer to measure total movement in all three planes and the effect on your heart rate. It’s one I picked up 4-6 months later, and I believe the mushier buttons were earlier on units before they fixed it. How does it adjust HR zones after taking the test? i would say the firmware is stable now. They could then use M600 mk 2 platform as a stepping stone to VV3, having done the hard yards with a less demanding audience (e.g. The AW sure has the newest features like oxygen saturation (SpO2) tracking, plus indeed a nicer interface. The Vantage V is faaaaaar away from being a flag ship! Interestingly however, despite taking this turn at speed (and that it then goes downhill slightly), the actual pace displayed on the Vantage V2 did noticeably drop, which was of particular note given it was in the middle of the VO2Max test and started giving ‘behind pace’ type alerts. I’m interested in testing the V2 but want my workouts to be up to date in polar flow. Does the V2 have a more positive feel when pressing than the V, like the Grit X? In general, the Polar V800 did very well – as did the Ambit 3 series. I do not think that this is what Polar actually said (or meant to say). I am currently running and biking in the Garmin 245 but I love the look of this watch. just say what you think, man. But often I’ll simply carry other units by the straps, or attach them to the shoulder straps of my hydration backpack. Illy. Would guess it was a bad feature choice from yesteryear, and today they’re resource constrained given the features customers want [dictated by the market/Garmin], and the comparatively lowish number of devices they’re selling. I’ve had this Vantage V2 watch now for almost a year. It can track your sleep, such as how long you sleep for and the quality. buttons on vv2 are very similar, perhaps they are very very slightly more recessed than vv1? GPS based compasses do. Se ha encontrado dentro – Página 363Another adkr vantage with this procedure is that the upper limit in This ... The method of using an Euler transfor( polar angle ) . mation to increase the ... Polar has long toyed with different LED’s to try and increase accuracy, slightly more so than most companies do. Lightweight premium multisport watch. Hi and thanks for your review. This time, it’s just the Vantage V2 at the higher price point. I learned to love the Strava route explorer lately and the easy export from the Strava routes to my Garmin watch. To me it seems they replaced the whole software team, and lost old code. A Coros Pace 2 and $300 beats the crap out of this v2 in nearly all meaningful areas. In the middle, and life is grand. El explorador británico Apsley Cherry-Garrard nos lo cuenta a través de sus vivencias en la expedición del capitán Scott al Polo Sur (1910- 1913), en la que éste y tres de sus hombres hallaron la muerte. Instead, if you want advice on what kind of cardio workout would be best for you today, you get that option as well at any time. Or some other watch? I still use my m400 now in 2021 so I’m really happy with the purchase! I think it is fair(ish) that Polar doesn’t include fuel and hill on VV1 as they are wholly new features. Looking for a watch that has fully support for Stryd and allows executing structured workouts in indoor running mode (GPS turned off). The VV was a good looking watch, this thing has the aesthetics of a cheap smartwatch, how come the bezel looks even larger than on the Vantage V/M? Three different approaches. “Yeah, it’s a great watch! I also have issues with the V2 heart rate sensor. And stuck on round screens, when the square worked so flawlessly, and didn’t cut off corners on nearly every display forcing scrolling to be required when not needed. But their top end is too disparate and unwieldy. Thanks for any recommendations. According to DCR, this is going to be a V2 only feature. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Use Backcountry.com or Competitive Cyclist with either the coupon code DCRAINMAKER for first time users saving 15% on applicable products. Thanks! Now, these aren’t tied to any specific training plan. (I’m not an app developer, nor am I associated with any app developers. this has happened to me 3 out of 4 times i’ve used these features, so i just do not use them anymore. Se ha encontrado dentro – Página 498From 99,920km out , V2 imaged an smaller at 48,600km equatorial dia . ... in methane is responsible for the blue - green colour . the south polar cap . Last time there was the higher end Vantage V, and then the mid-range Vantage M (with less features, lesser materials). I’m doubting ANT+ support, which is too bad, because the FTP testing was a great example of where it really needed it (due primarily to the limitations of most trainers on the market to not support multi-channel BLE connections). they should do that. Why not give Coros a try? This is where you can select routes, do back to start navigation, add countdown/interval timers, or load structured workouts. I have no Facebook account and for sure won’t create one just for Polar. I can get better pace accuracy from my Stryd, or sensors on my bike, than the GPS can hope for. For me, this seems to be related to Komoot/breadcrumb navigation. Vantage 2, Apex Pro and 945 are all in the same price range here in Germany right now. HR zones are not updated from cycling test. My last workout in polar flow was on May 29th. My Charge 2 screen had issues less than a year after I got it, then the Versa had many issues with random reboots and freezing (even had two replacement units during a year or year and a half!!). Fitspark recommends the type of training and specific guided workouts and Fuelwise tells you how to plan and execute the fuelling of that training. Water-resistant devices can resist the penetration of water, such as powerful water jets, but not being submerged into water. Could I use the new Vantage V2 stripes in the old Vantage V? Your Vantage V2 should then detect the BLE PWR/CSC and pair with it. I’m very disappointed with the ignite because of its poor battery life, awful strap between other things. As you can see, the HRM-PRO had the most correct and gradual build-up of data at the beginning, but the optical HR sensors were too far behind. I’m from out of the country and will be visiting the US, what’s the best triathlon shop in city XYZ? Here’s that data: At a high level we see some slight differences. I have contacted Polish polar support and they told me that Vantage V2 is supposed to allow adding wheel size from 100, unlike V800 that supports from 1000. For real? So just keep that in mind. So in my case I had to use a Garmin Edge device to control the trainer and set the target wattages. Note: Accuracy here is 6%, benchmark MAT TEST is 5%. Try these FAQ’s – some are simplistic but other tidbits of information come under the ‘I never knew that‘ category. Whilst I also look back with nostalgia on the V800, I do recall it being in beta for roughly 18 months since launch. Un sumatorio de todas las tecnologías e innovación de Polar vertido en un reloj que fusiona a. Once ready, you begin: It’ll give your current power, as well as the average power for the time. Ahh yes, and thus the core of your issue. For the jump tests related to leg recovery, those are indeed quick and easy tests to do that take a few seconds and can easily be done each day without impacting your normal training load/recovery, so those actually make quite a bit of tests. cycling performance test allows you to update power zones and VO2 max. The thing is I lost my HR belt and wanted to get a new one so dilemma is I had a lot of problems regarding the usage with the strap (maybe due to my own mistakes) so hoping that V2’s wrist HRM would be good and all day round easy to use thing but I got put off by the inaccuracies above because ease of use is cool but it should have some decent tracking as well, I’d not trade accuracy that you need when you exercise for daily usage. Garmin wins the rest (for the stuff I care about). This is by design, Polar isn’t a true “step-counter” (which is a poor way to track things as it ignores a lot of non-step related workout contributions). And I’m experiencing – just like the Vantage V – issues with the heartrate sensor, and sleep tracking (Unable to form ANS charge or no sleep tracking at all). As an example the polar GritX needs its altitude set before every activity to make sure it’s getting the right stats. Sabías que…Polar Vantage V2 es un reloj multideportivo con un . . The Polar Vantage V2 also possesses navigational capabilities via a link-up with Komoot. Now, given this feature has only rolled out, and I’ve only got a few jump tests and a successful running test (my failed cycling tests interestingly don’t show up here), the data is kinda slim. Or which of the new models of devices shows the heart rate in real time when swimming? then each pretty much do the job that the non-the5krunner would want. however i agree with you that the structured power workouts complete a cohesive, existing product set and so should be updated retrospectively to previous versions. On the backside of the Vantage V2 you’ll find the new optical HR sensor. these things take time ! But i was within +/- 3 km/h of Zwift. For many years ago I had Forerunner 235 (was it the first wrist HR in prize level sensible for normal fitness). Se ha encontrado dentro – Página 388We also present recent V2 observations and discuss their implications for ... information from the different vantage point during this period of time . For any workout over an hour, you will consider hydration and fuel needs. Polar’s own power calculations are used if STRYD absent. This allows you to control music on your phone. Required fields are marked.If you would like a profile picture, simply register at Gravatar, which works here on DCR and across the web. Polar Vantage V2. It amazes me how much effort u can put into reviews. Furthermore I would guess that heart rate measuring are the key to analyse/set the thresholds. Let’s say music and paying are not important, just sport features. what can and what cannot be done with the platform? Does it give distance information after each interval during phased workouts? The Polar V800 was updated literally forever. I do have a small wrist which would make the 745 an ideal watch for me. (and when is this V3 coming out?). The sports profiles you can create for the V2 are generally good and can be nicely configured with the usual data and nicely-presented metrics. • Read more about how the current default training zones are defined: https://www.polar.com/sites/default/files/static/science/white-papers/polar-running-performance-test-white-paper.pdf. For example indoor cycling or a cross-trainer. There is just no compelling reason for anyone new to a $500 watch, to look twice at Polar (and most stores, don’t even have Polar on display anymore, or just the Ignite and Unite (REI, private bike/running stores)… People are going to upgrade to what they can see and feel, and hear good buzz about… loyalists are going to die off the brand, realizing it’s a dead-end at this point. Does anyone has the same impression/thoughts? £351.44. Underwhelming update and can’t see anything here to motivate me to put my hand in my pocket and upgrade from my current Vantage V. Let’s hope they do a better job with V3. Nuts–was really hoping for a “M” version and ANT+ sensor support. It is easy to estimate the turning point for long steady runs, but it is much harder for intervals and tempo runs. Polar Vantage V2 tells you when your body has recovered and is ready for more. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful – I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. are downright ugly (especially Training Status on the Web), but at least the data seems to correlate well. The old VV is around € 330,-, for that price I might do the upgrade and give my VV to a family member. 2. I own a Polar Ignite which I am quite happy with, but it really lacks GPS tracking when swimming in open water. I am really looking forward to know your thoughts on the watch. As we hit the straightaway (but under tree cover), the Polar and Garmin are pretty much a wash, whereas the Fitbit is generally off deeper in the trees picking mushrooms or something. yes there are plenty of solutions but you need to have as accurate data as possible fro the source sensors to make most of them meaningful. And being awesome is what it’s all about! Unfortunately they don’t count as laps, I have to tap in the red button for manually counting laps (at least in my Vantage M). By comparison, watching you struggle on the video with the new V2 is embarrassing for them. Inversely, it’s not terribly useful in the Alps or something where you’ve got massive climbs and want to know how much ascent is left – it won’t tell you that. Polar Flow is the best but I will find another lover. Doesn’t really matter though, I’m going back to a Garmin again .. where I can set the goals for Steps/Intensity Minutes/Floors and not some weird Level 1-3 which are inconsistent and can’t be edited . It tracks your movement and records your pace (strokes/min). The Vantage V2 does *NOT* have any music storage on it. I’m pared my speed/cadence from Suito to a FR 245. Music Apps. I wear For example, the way Flow (or Polar more generally) calculates cardio load is just plain silly, for anyone that’s not super-consistent with training. Polar has a list of guaranteed power meters, but realistically that list is far less extensive than their competitors. They do the same for “tolerance”, where its 100% contribution for days 1 through 28, then suddenly 0. Välj ett träningspass bland olika alternativ som är optimerade för just dig! Also, for cycling, I’d really have preferred they’d included a RAMP test in there. A comment that’s pretty geared towards my background! This watch looks older not newer than the old Vantage. And it gave me a score of 57, without having to do any fancy test. Vantage M, Vantage V, Grit X Vantage V2 – only minimal differents in technology, appearance and software features. power zones are the way to go. Garmin Forerunner 245. Let’s see. Black, Grey-Lime and Green straps. I don’t know. The problem is, despite the vivid Gorilla Glass lens, visual guidance is rudimentary. 5. power is cool. But I’d say closer 4-5 days. The Vantage M2 has most of the same multisport training features as the flagship Vantage V2. Nope, you can’t. So, to answer your question: No, it does not take daily stressors into account, only recorded activities with HR data (or relies solely on sleep if you use Nightly Recharge). Polar vantage v2. Sometimes it feels like a searchlight is blinding you in the middle of the night. Casablanca y Hai Salam, Marrakech, El Cairo, y al final, París: este es el paisaje íntimo del viaje sentimental de Abdelá Taia. I think TBT would totally do the trick for me. Se ha encontrado dentro – Página 47... bet orchestra ern Polar blanc Lutoslas at they merto . " Chan Looi Tat Asiaweek the insta Opens v2 he orcha Ditting it Notes at WOW Japanese sports ... Power as an indication only and always inaccurate because GPS is inaccurate. (Or V2 with H10 is also a thing to consider?) IIRC autolap is same. And when you’re training in the pool do you really use all the fancy metrics…I don’t, I usually just want the cached HR and a timer! wait, what??! I mean, there are plenty of sensors. But reading closely through Polar support docs, it appears that heart rate zones are only updated after max HR test (not sub-max), and I have a feeling they are updated off the max HR achieved, i.e. At the very least there are no pop-up notifications with “normal” imported gpx routes. It’s good to see Polar release something new, it’s kind of a shame they’re not extending the original V via software but I don’t feel like many will be compelled to upgrade this time. That’s bad. I’m really curious about the power on wrist of the Vantage V2 and what you write in your review sounds really promising. I would like to know more in detail what is going on and how much of this might have been fixed with the more recent firmware. Polar webpage says that V2 has this function, but is there any difference between its implementation into V1 and V2? Can You input less than 1000 wheel size when pairing to smart trainer? Finally, remember the Garmin Connect IQ Summit is (virtually) next week. At least it was with the V800. I’ve experimented with it using a heart rate monitor. I have Level 3 set for goals (the highest) and some days my Vantage says I’ve reached my goals after lazy 8000 steps. So basically you can look at those two values and see the ratio as part of the number above it, such that it keeps things in check. At the $499 price level I’m expecting contactless payments, HR broadcasting, live tracking via app, and if you’re going to do FTP tests with Power you NEED ANT+ compatibility. STRYD is different, IMHO STRYD is better and seemingly more accurate. Getting your workouts done even though your legs are barking at you is the rule rather than the exception. Sorry, I’m still a little miffed about Polar’s marketing of the V2 as having “new/unique” features, when in reality, they are at best catching up with themselves. I haven’t cared for Orthostatic test in a long-long while. I have no inside information, but 30 years in the IT industry in a wide variety of fields and roles including some very global projects.