Will also remark that there are tutorials on the web on how to remove that silly top safety. and the old iron sights, no brass on the front I have a mod 92 in .44 mag. There are probably 100 different ways to solve each of these exercises, if your answer doesn't line up with mine, it means you did a really good job at trying to figure it out yourself. I think you need to look at the Marlins again. A Marlin 336 can be picked up at Walmart for less than $400 but a 1894 in .357 still goes for $700. Check out Steve Young’s site: stevesgunz.com. had a 24 inch octagon barrel and never had an accuracy problem with hitting plates at out 75 yards. The ’92 was designed to fire pistol calibers and was built alongside of the ’94 until the ’92 was discontinued in 1945 – about 50 years. I’ve noticed the same thing with my rifle and was curious if you found anything out. Quick and instinctive, but honestly just a little too small for full-sized shooters. Barrel is only marked for .44 mag. Great review. I spoke with a rep from the company at the NRA Convention and he was pretty candid about the issues and said he believes they have the issues resolved with the 336 and big bore guns. Password requirements: 6 to 30 characters long; ASCII characters only (characters found on a standard US keyboard); must contain at least 4 different symbols; Skinner Sights’ Rossi page: http://www.skinnersights.com/rossi_firearms_23.html. Seems to feed .44 special just fine. If you want better sights, have your gunsmith install a Williams or Lyman rear peep sight with a wide-open rear aperture and put a higher-visibility bead up front. -Cranky. Trigger Spring Kits; Installation Services; KEL-TEC SUB-2000 Accessories. Well done. Yup. In May of 2012 I purchased a new Rossi 92 in .38/.357. And the 851 revolver is my right hand man if you know what I mean. Selling some gun stuff, anyone post to the classifieds? The Rossi Model 92’s trigger is simply outstanding for a lever-action rifle. It’s honestly better than many entry-level bolt action triggers. Most factory 454s are loaded to 55,000 psi, but just saying, they are far superior to the marlins that I own. I purchased the 336c last year before hunting season started and I was more than a bit nervous about the purchase. I’ve seen OTC ammunition hit around 2030 fps and faster through a 16″ rifle barrel. I am researching prior to purchase. Metal parts are accurately machined and generally fit together with precision, although there are a few spots where the metal-to-metal fit is less than perfect. Everyone tried to burry Marlin rifles and these same guys would be crying for Marlin to come back with the lever gun market. Chris’s experience pretty much echoes my own. I don’t know where the Marlin hate comes from; I have purchased two 1894c’s in the past two years and both have performed flawlessly with probably about 1000 rounds through one and about 300 through the other. Thus, you need an attorney who is familiar with buyout type situations, so that they can see not only what is written in the contract, but what isn’t and should be. Debating selling my bike... what is a realistic price ? A 200 grain bullet with a 40 grain charge of black powder. Should I accept this when selling my busa? DEATH AND TAXES: Help Your Family Value Your Guns and Safely Sell Unwanted Firearms and Accessories, Diamondback DBX57 Video Review: 5.7x28mm Piston-Driven Pistol, Obscure Object of Desire: Norinco Sporter Hunter, http://www.skinnersights.com/rossi_firearms_23.html, http://store.stevesgunz.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22&products_id=5, http://store.stevesgunz.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=22&products_id=51, http://762precision.wordpress.com/product-reviews/providence-tool-company-pattern-21-sight/, http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=173&category=8&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=. Ilike it better than my Rugar 77/44.—44 mag Not that I would ever advise the removal of any safety device, but there are in fact a heck of a lot of old lever guns that seem to have functioned quite nicely without one. :(, Need opinion on selling a bike...for a bike. Ejection was positive and delightful: the empties were tossed about three feet in the air, to land about two feet behind and to the right of the shooter. The .38 special target load uses Green Dot under a 158 grain LSWC. Random Thoughts: 6: Feb 3, 2018: Plan On Selling My 06 In The Spring. I own one, I have modded it (removed safety, replaced buckhorn front with aperture front from skinner). yes, I said that I prefer it to several .308 bolt rifles, my M1A, and my AR. I’ve been in the market for the standard loop model in .357/.38 for months now but they are a beast to find. / 38 special and I love it. As Chris has discovered, the rifle’s tubular magazine is rated for 8 rounds. A pistol-caliber levergun has advantages in states that are restrictive, is easy to reload for in most calibers, and tends to be quieter. But, it was one more aggravation I thought I’d mention. Feeding and ignition were likewise perfect through our limited testing. Took it on a trip a month ago and shot it once. It is, however, fun and handy. Considering 357 ammo is a lot cheaper than 223 (where I am anyway) that’s a big plus in my book. Both guns are accurate enough out to 100 yards and the smaller one is fun to carry but doesn’t have the capacity for SASS matches. Rust can mix with fowling and dirt, causing a failure to feed properly. Unless Needs Be. KEL TEC SUB 2000 Optic Mount is the Best of the Best for KEL TEC SUB 2000 Accessories allowing you to Rapidly Deploy and Accurately Run a Red Dot Optic on your SUB 2000! I’ll take my 1895GBL I bought in June of 2012 over any pos Tuarus lever action rifle ever made. Again judging from the picture I cannot agree that an egg shaped hammer pin hole is only a cosmetic defect, it should have never left the factory with that defect. Has anyone who owns one ever detail stripped it? 1886 – medium to large bore rifle cartridges (replaced 1876) I’d love to see Mossberg bring out their 464 in .357 if they can keep it in the same price range as the 30-30 ($450 at Cabela’s). Nicer stock, nicer blue, and just as smooth. It seemed a nice match and I was right. Everything really starts with our Vision, which is: 'To be the best-run business in America, and the most successful, most respected business in our industry, for the benefit of our Customers.' They were selling $80 million in guns per year at one time. I have no idea how Rossi gets the barrel band screws in, but they should be taken off and the groove in the barrel and hole in the handguard dressed up and adjusted until they fit right on almost every one. The first time I was just cycling some rounds to check how smooth the action was and it jammed .lucky for me where I bought it there was a gunsmith and he supposedly put it back together. Curiously most ammunition velocity peaks with a 16″ barrel and then drops off a few fps with the 18″ barrel. So far the model 92 that I purchased has broken down twice. So, it’s a Remlin. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Tonight I saw the Rossi 92 stainless for $529 or so. I own three Rossi all 24 inch octagon barrels in the following calibers 38/357, 44 mag, and 45 colt. the 20 in barrel really gives the 454 a big boost in speed and performance in my opinion. The safety is non obtrusive and I don’t use it at all. Sight & Scope Installation Tools Small Hardware Stock Work & Finishing ... ROSSI 92 SPRING KIT. It’s just really smooth for a new lever. http://www.rossiusa.com/product-details.cfm?id=173&category=8&toggle=&breadcrumbseries=. Really? I have had really good luck with these rifles. I do some fast hip shooting too, but it is with special loads, short distances, large targets, etc. I would consider that DVD mandatory. We a offer a wide variety of parts to improve function and reliability while getting the most performance out of your firearm. Price ----- $39.95 Shipping -----$5.00 . thank you so much for this review! Loading it is now a real pleasure. “I’ve never understood or agreed with the “Rossi/ Taurus es no bueno por caca” reputation. My newest followers are now made from stainless steel. End of rant. I’m still breaking it in but I have been very pleased with the fit, finish, function and trigger. It is a beautiful, accurate deer-killer. I’m scared I won’t be able to get it back together. First things I did to it was remove factory rail, put on the iron rear site and trim down the tube spring. I have the 24″ barrel and it really seems to be more accurate than the 20″ 92’s that I have fired. Once I got it sited in it shoots straight as a good .22 rifle. this CL as is worth more than what its selling. I break the edges on the loading gate just enough that they are not sharp. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Back then, 44-40 brass was hard to find. B-Square sells this aluminum no-gunsmith mount for about $40. I also own or have owned many others of all brands and the Remlin bashing has just gone on too long, new ones are fine. If you are dumb enough to pay me an extra $500 over MSRP for my JM stamped Marlins, fine, I will sell them and buy all new one. It has been out hunting with me a number of times and I brought down my first hog with it, a 200 lb sow at 125 yards. Yes! trigger pull weight measurements. If you’re on the fence about it, just go for it. I understand others have had a much better experience with the brand/model but it left me disappointed enough that I avoid the Rossi/Taurus brands. But I’ve wanted a .357 rifle/pistol combo for a long time, and since Marlins generally aren’t available anymore…, In defense of modern Marlins… I really am going to be wanting a 38/357 next year. Anyone know? There is no Santa Claus, there is no Easter Bunny, and there are no such things as smurfs, unicorns or smurfs riding unicorns over rainbows. The ergonomics aren’t all sunshine and trumpets, however, especially for full-sized shooters. This is a nice-looking little rifle. I have their blued-and-brass Express sights on my Marlin 336; looks sweeee-eeet and shoots great, too. Replace the plastic follower, and the rifle is good to go. The only time a case will split is if there is plenty of room in the chamber area for it to expand, or perhaps ammo loaded to hot. More from The Truth About Guns about lever-action rifles: Evolution of the Winchester 1892 Lever-Action Rifle, Gun Review: 1892 Taylor’s Huntsman Lever Action Carbine. In the long-run, I’d choose to save a little bit longer and buy a proper Winchester or older model Marlin. I finally got it on paper but, after fewer than 100 rounds, the loading gate broke off during a reload and fell into the action. JHP from a 16″ barrel. That being said, you never want to judge a guns performance buy just one box of ammo. Kicks like a mule but will blow a hole in a good sized tree. Every Gun Store is “Out of Stock”. Thankful to have this review but still have questions Lately, the actions seem to be smoother and nicer than they were in the past. For Parts, two good sources are: M&M Gunsmithing 204 S Union St Alexandria, VA 22314-3326 (703) 739-2150 . I have a Rossi R92 in blue with a 16″ barrel in 38 Special/357 Magnum. I am considering getting new stocks, but this gun is a keeper. I’ve never understood or agreed with the “Rossi/ Taurus es no bueno por caca” reputation. The sight radius is shorter than an AK-47’s, and the length of pull is only 0.4″ longer than Mikhail’s Avtomat. Ever had a problem selling a car because it is not an automatic, Upset to see Vabs selling her pride and joy. A TC Encore or Handy Rifle would give you far better performance. It just seems… Daunting. 10 rounds is the same as the rifle magazine limit in some states, and the Model 92’s loading gate is nearly as quick as a bullet button mag swap. I’d never call a lever gun ideal for defensive work, but you called it right, if an MSR is prohibitively difficult (ruling out most semi auto pistol caliber carbines as well) and you just can’t handle a tactical shotgun efficiently, the lever action pistol caliber carbine is a legitimate choice. It’s the most accurate rifle I own..perhaps I just got a good one? So, no worries about deer. Hollow points in fmj type really sucked though for accuracy. The gun hasn’t been fired more than….maybe 20 times. I disassembled the receiver and removed the door, and went to work on the opening with a safed-edge ignition file (Sears Craftsman). But, I do not like Henry Big Boys because you can only use the tube for loading. It was a trial getting it like I wanted it but it was, kinda, worth it. What prompted the design of the 1894 was the need for a rifle designed to fire smaller diameter smokeless cartridges in a more compact and lighter rifle than an 1886. My 2 cents. Did find I eyed the sights abit low. false. Wanted to match caliber of my GP100 357 Revolver. Its my main shooter at the range and I have had no mechanical problems with the rifle. They did have their growing pains and Remington made a poor business decision not using more of the old Marlin veterans after they took over. I am happy with it just as it was from the box and probably won’t change anything. 92: Feb 3, 2019: Walmart selling motorcycle turbo kits! And it’s only 34 inches long, which is almost as short a rifle as you can own without waiting nine months for an SBR tax stamp. When I got mine they did not make it in the 454 option or I probably would have gone that direction. Construction: blued steel, Brazilian hardwood stock. Prices are up a bit on used Marlins. I have already drifted the front sight 1/8″ to the left. Gayroom - Twinks get lucky on strip and fuck Open wide and take it, take it hard Long haired Carmela Diamond blowing more on a cock until it blows in her mouth Extreme homosexual hard core arse making out groupsex homosexual video three by papparaunch Massage Me And Flick My … I’ll go you one better J-: I think that .357 and up pistol carbines are likely more effective than .223 rifles at inside-the-house distances. It cycles .38 Special well enough, but can’t feed or eject the .357 Magnums reliably at all. Also could simply be bad brass. I’m looking for some help on this or I’ll have to saw the barrel off so someone doesn’t blow it up in their face if I can’t resolve this issue. The most subjective of all criteria, but a fairly faithful rendition of a classic American design can never look wrong to me. Now, let’s talk looks. Just bad-mouthing South American products because they aren’t New England or European”. Mine is in 45 Colt but it will handle all I want to run through it. I would recommend against that due to what I posted above. If only Ruger would make such a rifle! Replaced it with a very expensive Cimarron Brush Popper Model 1873. Bashing Marlin is irresponsible, when you have a forum like this. After shortening, grinding or de-tensioning all nine springs it was much sweeter to cycle, but would still jam at least 50% of the time. It’s not quite as clean as if it were never there, but much better than a lever on top of a lever gun. Please think before you bash. People with deeper pockets sometimes forget that. They just didn’t realize how much they wanted one, until it was too late. As to your accuracy issues: From your picture, the first place I’d start is by re-crowning that barrel. But when you also realize experts widely agree fully 3-5% of the general population qualify for being clinically-certifiable sociopaths or psychopaths AND finance, politics plus “celebrity” tend to attract a large percentage of them and lastly, the further up the food chain in most any domain you go, the greater the percentages of sociopaths and psychopaths…. The European proof houses do not abide by SAAMI specifications, in reality they are just a rubber stamp for sloppy workmanship. I noticed that reloads are mentioned here. Not real happy with the wood and painted over it. Fit and finish is outstanding and accuracy rivals most bolt action rifles. !. I also own a Win 94 in 30-30 and a Henry 22 mag , The Rossi 454 is by far the finest and most accurate of the bunch, except maybe the Henry is more accurate. Much has changed in 6 years with Marlin/Remmington. I am looking to purchase a Rossi R92 357 mag. I have a Rossi 92 in .44 mag and it’s my go-to rifle. I expect my Colts and Berettas will continue to grow in collector value but I shoot them too. I really love them both for “playing cowboy” on the range. Sure, it works. This elegant rectangular wall mirror will add lustre to your bedroom or living room. Considering the zero ballistic advantage and the long range inability I would think a 16″ barrel is the way to go. I bought a model 92 .38/.357 a year ago and it’s about worthless. Stupid people write stupid things and this article is extremely stupid. Yes, I did all the stuff Steve’s guns suggested, including replacing the ridiculous safety with a nifty peep sight. Stoeger Top Lever Spring Kit $ 17.95. However there was a lot of Marlin bashing. It would be a tragedy to let Marlin fade into obscurity. Kinda like the AMF Harley shovel heads. He specializes in gunsmithing the Rossi lever guns and sells an excellent DVD that’ll teach you everything you need to know about how a 92 works, how to slick up the action, and how to get it apart and back together with no leftover pieces. I bought the 16″ big loop .45 and am stricken with it. The rule for honest owners of gun companies should ever be this: When someone from Wall Street comes calling to buy out your company, believe nothing. Loaded with hollow point pistol ammo a lever carbine has a much greater one shot stop likelihood while getting rid of the worst things about pistols (short sight radius, single point of contact). I can shoot most 130 grain 38 special lead rounds for plinking or 158 grain Fiocchi SJHP rounds for hunting without adjusting the sites. My standard answer is that I use the 243 for chip shots out to 400 yards and the 300 Wby for any long shots. I just recently commented on the use of semi auto pistol caliber carbines and praised them basically for anyone who wants a home defense weapon but dislikes either the operation or the recoil of a shotgun. It’s not a flat-shooting Super Magnum, it’s not a tackdriver, it doesn’t have a cool octagon barrel, and it’s got no mall-ninja tacticool pretentions whatsoever. I’d have to go down another peg to recommend a lever gun, however, they can be fast and accurate in experienced hands, fast and accurate enough that you don’t want to come in against them. Get everything in writing, have your lawyers (NB the plural) read it several times, have your accountant read it several times, and know in the end, they will be trying to screw you. You just don’t do this sort of thing to a rifle like this; if you want long-range precision you won’t find it with a pistol-caliber saddle carbine anyway. I’ve just been cleaning the bore as usual and brushing out the action, but I want to take down the entire mechanism sometime and cleaning. If there are any ideas, send them please. And when the dogs start barking in the middle of the night, I grab a 5-shot 4-inch J-frame Rossi .38 that is as sweet as any Smith I’ve ever owned. A Rossi might never end up in a museum (you never know) but they look cool, they’re handy and affordable. Mine has some dented wood and scratched bluing. Not supposed to advertise, so no link, but a second ago, I saw a stainless Rossi 92 in 357 for $529 with $9.95 shipping and a Marlin stainless 1894 for $885. Especially 38 spl and 44 spl. As for customization, there are lots of aftermarket parts that address known issues with the Rossis. I would first check the barrel closely, then start with 38 wadcutter, brass cases only then move to Plus P 38s then to traditional brass American made ammo, like Winchester white box or Remington. 44 Mags, I hunt deer with them. One more item on a very long list. I have a R92 20″ Octagal in 357 with the case hardened finish and a R92 Ranch Hand in 357. 112 talking about this. And after this review, I think I’m going to have to get one of these Rossi leverguns…someday. I don’t pretend to be the final authority but I believe that following a loading manual from a reliable source (I use Hornady, Speer/RCBS and Sierra) will keep you safe and save you money. Working man’s truck gun no doubt, but hey, that is what I am. My 24″ case hardened (in 44-40) routinely shoots 2″ groups at 25 yards when I shoot standing with no sling. From what I understand the 454 will shoot both the casull and the 45 colt. Blue dot give a huge fireball in handguns, but the 16″ barrel gives plenty of room to burn up a slow powder. While I accept that it is a good value for money spent, it does not compare to a quality “JM” Marlin or Winchester is any respect. I like your review. I was able to fire it four times and at fifty yards I was able to place all four rounds in a pattern about the size of a quarter. JavaScript is disabled. Those might be very light load 357 cartridges or relatively heavy bullets? i have had a rossi m92 20 inch in 454 for years and i love it and will never get rid of it. Then again, I’d be tempted to buy a Henry that was on-sale too. This won’t keep you from blasting tin cans or Evil Roy cowboy silhouettes, but it makes bench testing for a gun review a chore. I’m not a huge fan of any kind of buckhorn rear sights, even though they are historically correct. I bought some hard cast 230gr and 200gr bullets for it and it just doesn’t shoot them as accurately. If you’re having problems with yours feeding .357, adding a very small polished chamfer to the bottom rear edge of the chamber (there the round rides off the elevator into the chamber) makes a huge improvement in smooth feeding. I paid $150 for the package. I have the Legacy Puma in 45/454 stainless w/fiber optic sights. Kit contains five springs, including two ejector springs — one stronger than the other. Upgraded to a more modern cartridge,ie smokeless powder, in .357, .44 mag, .45 colt or even the original .44-40 it will still get the job done.